Mon 30 Aug 2010
Whodunit: Mystery Writing Advice from the Masters
Posted by Kathleen Ryan under advice, genre
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As a Suffolk County Police Officer for more than two decades, I am used to writing “just the facts.” When I retired to spend more time with my family after having survived breast cancer, I wanted to pursue my dream of writing full-time. In addition to writing a true crime memoir, I have tried my hand at hint fiction, flash fiction, essays, short stories, and blog writing. I joined the NY/TriState chapter of Sisters in Crime and the Public Safety Writers Association and have attended several writing conferences.
Since retiring, I’ve read extensively, attended classes and workshops to learn more about writing. Along the way, I’ve picked up some tidbits from the masters.
P.D. James believes, “There could be no better apprenticeship for an aspiring novelist than a classical detective story, with its technical problems of balancing a credible mystery with believable characters and a setting which both complements and integrates the action.”
She also said, “The construction of a detective story might be formulaic — the writing need not be.” On P.D. James’ website, she offers “Mystery Writing Lessons.”
Earlier this year, I joined the Short Mystery Fiction Society, an e-mail discussion group, consisting of “writers, readers, fans, editors and publishers of mystery and crime fiction from all around the globe.” The e-mail discussion is filled with solid advice. Another helpful group, of course, is the Mystery Writers of America.
Robert B. Parker’s advice on writing and submitting a mystery novel? “Write it and send it in.”
In the craft of writing a mystery, Dorothy L. Sayers wrote in 1936 that detectives must “display their clues to the readers as soon as they have picked them up,” and not saving them until the finale. It has been the test of quality for the modern detective story.
Mickey Spillane said, “Nobody reads a mystery to get to the middle. They read it to get to the end. If it’s a letdown, they won’t buy anymore. The first page sells that book. The last page sells your next book.” For a list of works on writing mysteries, check out thrillingdetective.com.
James Lincoln Warren offers craft advice in “The Art of the Short Story” on Criminal Brief: The Mystery Short Story Weblog Project.
Hopefully it won’t take as long, but Sue Grafton said, “I spent the first twenty years of my writing career preparing for the mystery genre, which is my favorite literary form.”
I can compress the two biggest pieces of advice Stephen King offers in his memoir, On Writing: “Read and write.”
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Kathleen A. Ryan‘s, “Playing with Matches” appears in the forthcoming W.W. Norton’s Hint Fiction: An Anthology of Stories in 25 Words or Fewer, edited by Robert Swartwood. She has won Flash Fiction and Creative Non-Fiction Awards from the Public Safety Writers Association. She blogs at Women of Mystery and http://www.kathleenaryan.com. Her fiction has appeared online at: A Twist of Noir, Nanoism, Six Sentences, Six Word Stories, Misfit Salon, and 50-to-1 blogspot. Follow her on Twitter @katcop13.
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Great advice. I particularly like the Mickey Spillane quote
Hi Jon,
Thanks for commenting. Isn’t that Spillane quote great? I like it, too.
Robert B. Parker’s advice on writing and submitting a mystery novel? “Write it and send it in.”
Excellent, reminds me of Earl Stanley Gardners advice on dealing with rejection letters
“Slice open the letter, turn it upside down, shake it and if a cheque drops out read it.”
That’s great advice from Earl! Thanks for letting us know, Leonard!
I have never written a mystery. They seem likely to be very hard to me, but maybe someday I will try one. I do often like to read in the field. Great post!.
Kathleen – Thanks for such a terrific guest post! All of these pieces of advice are worth thinking about and remembering, and I’m glad that you shared them with us. One of my favorite’s is from Agatha Christie, who wrote that “The best time to plan a book is while you’re doing the dishes.” I love that one!
Enjoyed this post, Kathleen. I don’t write mysteries but all my stories tend to have “mysterious” elements, so this works for me, too.
Thanks for the post, Katherine. One of my favorite quotes is by William G. Tapply in The Elements of Mystery Fiction.
“Write for the reader. Never deprive them of the chance to participate.”
Thanks, Madeline. I’ll never forget when I read Stephen Koch’s Modern Library Writer’s Workshop: A Guide to the Craft of Fiction, I was floored by how much the book really applied to writing in general. Ironically, even to write non-fiction, we must employ the techniques of fiction. Just about every book he mentioned in this book, I bought or borrowed, and I continued to learn SO much. The learning never ends!
Love reading quotes on writing! It’s always such fun to read what people have to say. Of those, I have to say, the Spillane is my favorite.
Wonderful advice, wonderful selection. Great comments! The quote Earl Stanley Gardners’ advice caused an instant, out loud belly laugh! Great stuff…
From another Madeline–Kathleen, I loved this post. P.D. is my all time favorite author, read all her Dagliesh (sp) novels and she’s definitely an author to take advice from! And Stephen King is on the mark with “read and write!” (now if I could just somehow get out of doing chore kind of things!) Energizing blog…
Thanks Kathleen, for giving the Genre Safari a bit of mystery!! So appreciate all your hard work.
Thanks for inviting me, Gay ~ it’s a pleasure to be here today!
Kathleen gave me over half a dozen good “reading assignments” in her comments–all of which I look forward to following up on even though I’ve read some already, such as the Stephen King book, and others are familiar.
As well as write, I also teach–and I just got back from my first day’s teaching for the semester. Now I feel like a student, too. For me, that’s a good feeling.
Thanks, Kathy!
Charlene Knadle
aka C.B.Knadle
Kathleen: Stephen King an all time favorite “Read and write” as always to the point. Wonderful information thank you! Jennifer
Hi Kathy!
I enjoyed reading your “Whodunit” article. It was well thought out and very informative. The comments from the “Masters” were intelligent and/or humorous. Being familiar with the authors’ books, it was fun reading their advice. I agree with P.D. James who writes:” The detective story might be formulaic but the writing need not be.”
Your writing is great. Keep up the splendid job. Hope to read more from your “magic pen”.
Hi Kathy!
I enjoyed reading your post. I agree with P.D. James who writes that the detective story might be formulaic but the writing need not be.
Thank you, Kathy, for these wonderful pieces of advice from the masters. And congratulations on your upcoming publication!
Charles,
Looks like mystery is one of those genres on your list to be tackled! I’m sure you’d write a fine one.
Margot,
Thanks for adding that quote from Dame Agatha ~ it’s terrific! This is one of the best aspects of blogging ~ getting feedback from readers that enrich the post ~ and you’ve done just that!
Thanks for joining in!
Laura,
I’m with you ~ I eat up these tidbits from writers who have sat in their chairs spending hours writing ~ we can relate. Spillane’s advice stands true today and always will.
Jim H.,
Thanks to you as well for adding the Tapply quote. He is right on…we must give the reader credit, and give them the opportunity to participate ~ a great piece of advice. I’m unfamiliar with his book, but I’ll be looking for it now!
Jim,
Thanks for stopping by. I have another Erle Stanley Gardner gem (he had your sense of humor): “It’s a damn good story. If you have any comments, write them on the back of a check.”
Madeline,
Thanks for visiting. I’ve listened to the PD James audiobooks, “Talking About Detective Fiction” and “Time to be in Earnest” and you have come to mind quite frequently, as I know you’re a huge fan. I think she’d be very proud of your writing accomplishments ~ I certainly am
Charlene,
I always enjoyed the newness that September brought during my school years ~ so I understand that feeling. I’m so glad you have some new and familiar books to review as time permits. Best wishes on the start of the new semester. Your students are fortunate to have you as their professor!
Jenn,
“On Writing” was the first craft of writing book I read as soon as I retired. My cousin gave it to me as a gift. I loved it. He’s absolutely correct ~ read, read, read, and write, write, write ~ there’s no shortcuts!
Margie,
Thanks for taking the time to read my post and writing such lovely comments. I know you’re an avid reader, and I’m so honored to earn your respect.
Thanks again, Gay, for giving me the opportunity to post on Flash Fiction Chronicles ~ it’s been a pleasure
Kathy,
Great post! Good luck in your writing endeavors. I love a good mystery!
Elena,
Thanks, Elena, for stopping by, and for your good wishes. It’s hard to believe it’s been 7 months since “A Mountain of Crumbs” was released! Where has the time gone?
Karen,
Thanks, my avid-reader friend, for visiting FFC and for your kind words. I enjoy a good mystery, too!
Smashing post. Kathleen is a splendid writer.
Oh, Paul, you are so kind. I’m one of your biggest fans! I’m in awe of your talent.
Love reading this. It helped me to focus and to put rejection into perspective. Thank you!
Hi Myra,
Thank you for taking the time to read my post and to write such a lovely comment. I wish you all of the best. Don’t give up! Every writer must deal with rejection, it comes with the territory. You are not alone! Hang in there. Keep reading & writing!